What Sunfish is this?

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Giuga10
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What Sunfish is this?
<p>Hi, I caught this fish today at a local pond. I live in Ontario (Markham to be exact) and it was caught in a stormwater drainage pond (kinda like a farm pond). The species of fish there are Largemouth Bass, Pumpkinseed Sunfish, Bluegill, and Goldfish/Koi. I was wondering if this is a different type of Pumpkinseed sunfish or maybe it&#39;s a cross breed between Koi and Pumpkinseed Sunfish because it does not look like a regular Pumpinseed Sunfish to me :P.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Any help would be greatly appreciated.</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i.imgur.com/oUxEq.jpg" style="width: 547px; height: 409px;" /></p> <p>Me with the fish. Also a pic with the fin up.</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i.imgur.com/AbCCm.jpg" style="height: 409px; width: 545px;" /></p> <p>A different one. This one had a small amount of purple scales.</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i.imgur.com/qPaFP.jpg" style="height: 409px; width: 545px;" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Same fish as above.</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i.imgur.com/s3O4G.jpg" style="height: 409px;" /></p> <p>A Bluegill I caught the other day. Notice the very light color.</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i.imgur.com/NiQBP.jpg" style="height: 409px; width: 545px;" /></p> <p>And heres a pic of the Koi a man caught there. Sadly he was taking them home to eat :(.</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i.imgur.com/kZXCe.jpg" style="height: 409px; width: 545px;" /></p> <p>Alot of the fish that were caught but not photographed were very light colored, almost white. They dont look like a Pumpkinseed&#39;s colors but they look like Pumpkinseed&#39;s. Would a Koi and a Pumpkinseed breed. Also they Koi that can be caught there.</p> <p>Thanks in advance for any help,</p> <p>Giuga10</p>
Tyler W
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Bluegill

The first fish is a bluegill. The vertical bars are nice and distinct. The second fish might be a pumpkin X blue hybrid, but only because the bars are broken. I am leaning towards regular bluegill...

 

Koi are the same species as common carp, but "koi" share a mutation that makes them bright orange. Carp and sunfish are not even remotely related and there is no way that they can hybridize. Sunfish (green, pumpkin, bluegill etc) can and do hybridize easily which can make sunfish tricky to identify. But, with a little practice you can pick out key characters to ID the parents. 

Conecuh
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Fish from murky waters can be

Fish from murky waters can be much lighter than fish of the same species from clear water.

One of the most striking examples I've seen is in this post by Hengelaar.

http://www.roughfish.com/~roughfis/content/taurine

Dr.Flathead's smallmouth buffalo (about halfway through the post) is almost white, and Hengelaar's, caught from clearer water, is almost black.

I may be wrong, but I think it's caused by a similar process that causes suntans in humans.

And, have you tried fishing for the koi? That would be a pretty cool catch.

Deftik
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I also think its a bluegill,

I also think its a bluegill, almost positive.

the pyromaniac
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Definitely a bluegill. At
Definitely a bluegill. At least 75% of the ancestry is bluegill, with maybe a pumpkinseed hiding in the woodpile a generation or two ago......

 

 

 

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Dr Flathead
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I'd say their all bluegills. 

I'd say their all bluegills.  And the Koi in the basket look to be just common Goldfish.  Goldfish are very common in stormwater retention ponds around here too.  Yuck, cant imaging how they must have tasted...

Outdoors4life
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I'd say their all bluegills. 

I'd say their all bluegills.  And the Koi in the basket look to be just common Goldfish.  Goldfish are very common in stormwater retention ponds around here too.  Yuck, cant imaging how they must have tasted...

 

Exactly my thoughts.

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Muskymags
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Doc and Aaron are right

Bluegills and Comet Golfish!