What are these fish? (video)

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Gunnar
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What are these fish? (video)
<p>What are they? I keep changing my mind.</p> <p><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/oswT1Mrq024" width="420"></iframe></p> <p>These were everywhere, and I had NOTHING that floated! Anything that splashed at all spooked them, so even a tiny unweighted bit of crawler was too much. I saw them mouth big, brown maple leaves from last fall as they floated by, so I even tried casting a leaf with a hook in it. Of course it didn&#39;t go more than a couple feet from my hiding place. I wished I hadn&#39;t eaten my sandwich. Bread would have worked for sure.</p> <p>http://youtu.be/oswT1Mrq024</p>
garman
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Vid Fish

Was that at Garvana?  I'm 97% sure that those are bigheads.  Maybe 98%.

Dr Flathead
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I'd say Bigheads or Bigmouth

I'd say Bigheads or Bigmouth Buffs.  You could have caught one of them for sure with whatever they were chasing.  What were they rising and eating?  The leaves?

Jknuth
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Man look like grass carp to

Man look like grass carp to me. They dont have the right head shape for bigheads and the caudal peduncle looks too heavy for a bighead. 
but its hard to see in the video.....
Crazy man!

Jknuth
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Here are a few pics of

Here are a few pics of suspended grass carp.
And the eating the leaves would fit the MO

Corey
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Grass Carp?

I've seen that behavior - and read some of DavidG's descriptions of how difficult to fool they can be.

Gunnar
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I vote grass carp

At first, before I got on a tall enough rock and the sun moved to a good position, I was thinking buffalo. Then I got pessimistic and thought bigheads. Once I did get a better look, I was convinced they were grass carp based on watching them eat leaves.

Why did I throw out the little bag of mini-marshmallows that had been at the bottom of my pack for months? Why did I eat that second sandwich? They wouldn't have minded spicy mustard and salami residue and a hint of cheddar. I had no floating flies in my fly box. I was totally loaded for bottom feeders and predators. Surface feeding never crossed my mind. If it wasn't 160 miles round trip, I'd be there tomorrow with a longer rod, some bread, some marshmallows, a box of floating flies...

Garman, please go catch one so I know precisely what to kick myself for. They didn't show up until late afternoon, and then there were tons of them.

 

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kernel j
Grass Carp!

They do this same thing on the Wabash, at some times of season you can here them crunching.  At first I thought the crunchies were spit as rejections, but upon later ponderence I believe they score a small morsel everytime they do it.  Probably just didn't see a point in chasing the one leaf all around when another bite's coming right up.

 

Never fished them this way, only see it in odd places at unprdeictable times.  Hard to reach areas, too.

 

That's a badass video.  Even though you couldn't/didn't get to fish them, it's one heck of a freaky cool thing to sit and watch.  I swear those critters are vaguely salmonid in their body movements.  The thought of catching a fish on a real leaf does have a wacky appeal to it, perhaps even more so than getting them on a fly or piece of bread.  It IS wildflower season, y'know.  And such would be the prettiest bait you ever caught a fish with, we do expect pictures if you are so inclined.   

Jknuth
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The only grass carp I have

The only grass carp I have ever seen or hooked was in a lake/pond in Iowa. They were milling around in a backwater area, so I hooked a clover flower on a number 8 hook and set it out and waited. a moment later *Slurp* then I set the hook. The fish FLIPPED OUT and ran snapping my line like it was nothing. 
 

Hengelaar
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Grass Carp..?

The pointy snout and small(ish) white mouth make me think Grass Carp.

The way in which they take those leaves makes me think Grass Carp, too...

But it is tricky to see. Of course I (along with Josh) only observed Bigheads at one ( weird, unnatural and messed up) spot. But they never slurped or grabbed visible thingies from the surface. They would just cruise just below the surface, with their (big) mouths constantly open, and filter invisible whatevers...

 

If indeed they are Grassies, some bread should definitely do the trick if they are in that mood. Toss in some free offerings to get them accustomed to it and follow that up with your bait. Of course the fact that it is moving water would make surface fishing much more tricky. You'd have to make drifts. You wouldn't be able to cast to a likely spot, let your bait settle and wait... Still, if they're going like that...

 

Man, that video made me itchy!

 

 

Fishn sure is neat

Gunnar
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Just imagine how itchy you'd

Just imagine how itchy you'd be sitting there on a rock watching them for an hour while your bottom-rigged bait did nothing. I'd guess I saw 50 of them in 150 yards of river, all feeding like that. Sometimes they'd come to foot-deep water within 10-15 feet of me if I was standing really still, but the slightest movement would spook them.

Definitely reminded me of salmon the way they moved and with their size and shape.

Flowers! That would be great. I'll have to try that if I get down there again.

 

 

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garman
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Grass Carp?

I guess I was a bit hasty being under the influence of one beer.  Grass carp, you say . . . hmmmmm . . . I will take it upon myself, commisioned by Gunnar himself, to seach for, hook, land, and positively identify those fish.  Taxes, yard work, house work  will have to wait.

Gunnar
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Have no fear! Garman is here!

Have no fear! Garman is here!

(cue epic theme music)

 

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