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CoolWater
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Species ID
<p>Made a trip to a new spot and started scouting the water by looking down at the river from a car bridge...&nbsp; it was pretty cool to locate fish and then zoom in with the camera.&nbsp; I thought I was only seeing carp, however, one photo I took revealed a fish hanging out next to a carp.&nbsp; Didn&#39;t even see it until examining the photos on the computer... the fish has me very curious and wanted to get people&#39;s opinion on what it might be...</p> <p><img alt="" src="https://coolwaterfish.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/whatfish.jpg" /></p>
SuperFrog
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I've frequently witnessed bas

I've frequently witnessed bass following carp pods, grabbing up crayfish and bugs that the carp spook.  Hard to say if that's what is happening in this photo, but it's my guess.

 

 


It doesn't matter what you're fishing for, just as long as you're out there doing it.

CoolWater
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Fascinating... thanks for the

Fascinating... thanks for the input.  Had never thought of or heard of that but it makes sense... love scnerios where animals/different species work in conjunction with each other - very neat!

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krazyk
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To me it kinda looks like a w

To me it kinda looks like a way smaller carp. You can see how its mouth is kind of subterminal and lighter in coloration than the rest of its body. Its eyes are also in a similar position on its head.

Chain Pickerel: All the bad assery of a Northern Pike wrapped up in a smaller, prettier package.

Dr Flathead
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Is it a great lakes trib?  Al

Is it a great lakes trib?  Almost looks like a sea lamprey with that wide head.

CoolWater
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The resolution of the photo w

The resolution of the photo with that far of a zoom prevents me from really getting much more detail than the photo posted.  I will say when I look at the raw photo - I just do not see any scale pattern and it seems even at that size I would see some if it was a carp.  Cetainly could be one though.

It is Lake Erie trib, and it is right below the first dam... so no obstructions between the lake and these fish.

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Hengelaar
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Drum?  

Drum?

 

Fishn sure is neat

Dr Flathead
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Maybe its someones aquarium r

Maybe its someones aquarium release.  Maybe its a Lima Shovelnose...

CoolWater
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hmmm....

Thanks for all the replies and thoughts...

Too thick at that length to be a drum I'm pretty sure.

Lima Shovelnose I just googled, interesting.

I think Im going to had back there tomorrow and try my luck.

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Jknuth
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I am fairly comfortable in sa

I am fairly comfortable in saying it is a Freshawter drum. 
The thicknes ussue is very deceptive due to refraction of light. In addition to that drum can be very deceptive in that area. The coloration of the fins are identical to the body coloration so in some cases the body seems deeper or thicker then it really is due to fin position. The photo is not taken looking striaght down but rather at an angle so bot sides of the fisha re visible to a degree. 

 


Here is the original image.

 



In this image I have drawn the centerline of both fish. And outlined the body and fins that are visible. 
The fork on the carp should be deeper but I got lazy with my stylis.

 

 

And finally I traced what we could see and also added the pectoral fin on the side closest to the viewer. 

 

 

The eye is visible in the photo. 
The fin on the back is the long pectoral fin and the fin in the front is the long pelvic fin. 
The illusion of the fishes thickness is from the thick head (drum trait) and the large soft dorsal making the fish appear thicker. 
the only mystery is the lioght patch above the head. My guess is its not part of the fish, but rather a rock or something just under the fishes head. 
 

 

My money if I had any is on Drum. 
Drum commonly mill around below dams and follow larger fish around. 

 


 

CoolWater
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Nice

I am always amazed by the talent and skills of people on this site...  I'll go with drum then!

Weather looks bad today so I might not get back too soon. (as I am traveling for work this week).

Thanks again

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