Rare Sucker, Thought Extinct, Caught in Grand Canyon

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Corey
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Rare Sucker, Thought Extinct, Caught in Grand Canyon
<p>Link <strong><a href="http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_northern_az/other/researchers-catch-rare-fish-at-grand-canyon">HERE</a></strong></p>
TonyS
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Cool Story

And good news..  The headline they used was a bit misleading but whatever.  Razorbacks are definately not extripated from the Colorado River, though admittedly people assumed they were gone from the section of river in Grand Canyon.  Doesn't seem too unlikely that one turned up though - given there is still a surviving population in Lake Mead, on the downstream terminus of the Canyon.  No real chance of them making a real comeback in Grand Canyon, at least not without serious habitat rehabilation.

TonyS
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Even better!

I like the new story (and headline) better.  50 miles eh?  That should put the fish upstream of Pearce Ferry Rapid... I wonder if it managed to shoot up through the rapid or if it made the run before the water levels dropped far enough for the rapids to emerge?  I pretty sure it is a fairly recently recovered rapid.

 Wanna give that a run a shocking boat!? (they musta put in upstream)

Cast_and_Blast
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Man has really screwed things

Man has really screwed things up out there and continues to do so.  Everybody's love affair for the damn trout and othe non-natives has done a lot of damage out there.  Try to google for info on the Bluehead Sucker or Utah Sucker sometime.  You have to wade through reams of useless trout info to find a scrap of native fish info.  And then when you find a great spot for some of these cool natives, they have special regs that say you cannot use live bait because it has been turned into a stupid trout fishery now.  It is really frustrating for us roughfishers.  It seems like no one cares about roughfish until their almost extinct and then at that point we build hatcheries for them and say, "you can't fish for them any longer."   

 

I'm hoping and waiting for some populations of the "MIGHTY FOUR" (Squawfish, Bonytail, Humpback, & Razorback) to build due to the work being done on the Green River near Ouray, Utah.  They have been planting these species in here for the past 10 years now.  Who knows, maybe they will be able to take them off of the endangered lists some day.      

TonyS
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The culture clash out there

The culture clash out there between the Trout people (mostly tourists), Warm Water Game Fish people (many are bucket biologist rednecks), and those who care about natives (many being hippies) is quite the sociology case study...  Even better when you toss in the artifical Agri-business of the region and the rich people with swimming pools, green lawns, golf courses...

 

The Lees Fairey trout fishery is likely a social stumbling block to helping the Humpback population in Grand Canyon.  I still think there has to be a practical solution to warming the water below that dam, especially since it would really only need to warm up for a couple months - but then I'm not a civil engineer.

 

The warm water people dumping Cats, Bass, and Pike everywhere and the feds removing them is quite the waste of money too.  They just keep battling back and forth wasting time and money.  I was just thinking the other day if there was a way to practically raise the natives to 12" or better before stocking that (another with some habitat improvement) would be huge.  A foot long fish is way less likely to get chomped down than a 3" fish...

 

At least there are still some tiny glimmers of hope in the UCRB - I do worry about all these droughts though.  Snowpack isn't looking good right now.  Hopefully the trend switches in the next couple months.