Porgy Identification Help

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MichaelAngelo
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Porgy Identification Help
<p>Caught at the Florida Keys</p> <p>I present what I think are two littlehead porgies:</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/MichaelVerdirame/Fishing%202012/Florida%20December%202012/IMG_2904.jpg" style="width: 500px; height: 375px;" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/MichaelVerdirame/Fishing%202012/Florida%20December%202012/IMG_3047.jpg" style="width: 500px; height: 667px;" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>And a jolthead porgy (orange in corner of mouth) or a grass porgy?</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr193/MichaelVerdirame/Fishing%202012/Florida%20December%202012/IMG_2930.jpg" style="width: 500px; height: 375px;" /></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>Thank-you in advance for the help!</p>
rc6750
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I agree that the top two are

I agree that the top two are littlehead porgies. i would say the the bottom image is more likely to be a grass porgy or a maybe a sheepshead porgy (Calamus penna) just based on some pictures like this http://www.fishbase.org/images/species/Capen_u4.jpg

very interesting fish though - i am sure grass porgys have different color variations but the ones I have caught have not looked like that or had orange.

MichaelAngelo
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I think that the profile of t

I think that the profile of the head may be too regular for it to be a sheepshead porgy.  The sheepshead porgy head profile is similar to the jolthead... it slants sharply downwards.  When I see illustrations of joltheads, they're all uniformly convex all the way to the mouth, no change in curvature.  

 

http://www.fishbase.org/photos/PicturesSummary.php?resultPage=2&ID=1221&what=species

 

vs

 

http://www.fishbase.us/images/species/Capen_u0.gif

 

 

Still stumped on this one though

 

Check this picture out:  http://www.fishbase.us/photos/UploadedBy.php?autoctr=15352&win=uploaded

rc6750
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yeah, you are right. the only

yeah, you are right. the only porgies I see with this head shape are grass, jolthead and maybe pluma. If I had to make a decision I would say grass porgy based on this "five vertical rows of dark blotches" which it kind of looks like yours has. Good luck.

pmk00001
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I'd say

The first two are littleheads for sure, the last one is a grass porgy, the V-marking near the tail is another identifying feature.