Patoka Lake Sunfish Identification Help?

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IsaacsFishingCorner
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Patoka Lake Sunfish Identification Help?
<p>Okay, so to keep from going to crazy while the weather does what ever in earth it is doing this winter, I&#39;ve been reviewing some of my catches from this last year. And it occured to me that I think I forgot to check the identification on a few fish I caught from Patoka Lake (a large lake in Indiana). For some dumb reason I had just lumped all of these in the Longear Sunfish category and forgot to actually look at the images.. So that brings me to this post.</p> <p>Around here I would expect a Longear Sunfish to look along the lines of this:</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://roughfish.com/sites/default/files/WP_20161008_13_19_54_Pro.jpg" style="width: 1024px; height: 576px;" /></p> <p>But the fish I caught in the shallows looked like this:</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://roughfish.com/sites/default/files/WP_20161008_14_10_32_Pro.jpg" style="width: 1024px; height: 576px;" /></p> <p><img alt="" src="http://roughfish.com/sites/default/files/WP_20161008_14_10_38_Pro.jpg" style="width: 1024px; height: 576px;" /></p> <p>Which I had just tossed into the thought of being juvinile Longear Sunfish, but I&#39;ve been argueing with myself for last few days on this possibly being an Orangespotted Sunfish. I haven&#39;t ever seen one in person so I could be wildly incorrect and I thought it would be better to just to the experts and ask. The identifcation guide I&#39;m working off of has been wildly unhelpful, so what do you all think?</p> <p>The other fish that I was curious about was this little guy:</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://roughfish.com/sites/default/files/WP_20161008_11_58_17_Pro.jpg" style="width: 1024px; height: 576px;" /></p> <p>Is he just an abnormally dark Longear, or is he something special?</p> <p>Is there any information you all could provided on what these are and any good resources I should be looking at that would give me a better way to identify them</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>
Mike B
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I'm no sunfish expert but I

I'm no sunfish expert but I think your suspicions are correct on the orange-spotted sunfish. The second fish, pumpkinseed-green X?

mike b

drawer.bli
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The first three are longears,

The first three are longears, the last I would say a longear hybrid of some sort. The last one looks tricky, perhaps some green sunfish genes in there.

IsaacsFishingCorner
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After some more research I

After some more research I think I have to agree with your id of Longear on the first 3, I forgot about the white outline on the ear flap being an identifying factor for Longears. The last one still confuses me a little, hybirds are always a bit of a mystery to me. But knowing it is a hybrid is a bunch of help. Thanks for the help everyone!

SomewhereDownstream
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Hybrid

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure that's a longest (trying to say l-o-n-g-e-a-r and autocorrecting is protesting)/green  sunfish hybrid. Nice looking fish either way, though.

SomewhereDownstream