Lets play name the species again!!!

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Carp Chaser
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Lets play name the species again!!!
<p>Ok I need help figuring out what species of fish this is. I originally caught one in a creek before June. With preparations for the contest taking priority at the time I ended up not posting it. I have caught the same type of fish several different times now going back to the creek and just want to know what it is. Originally Phil thought it might be a bluntnose minnow, the problem there is most of the pics of ones I have looked up have a dark lateral line stripe and a more pointed nose. This fish has a head shaped almost like a fathead minnow.</p> <p>It looks a little like a female central stoneroller. I have gone through a lot of micro lifelists and tried to find a species that matched. There are some that are close, just not sure. It is also a fairly good sized micro, dwarfing most of the other micros in the creek. I&#39;m also guessing this is a pretty common species, there are a lot of them in the spot. Any help is appreciated.<img alt="" src="http://www.roughfish.com/sites/default/files/IMG_0002_1.JPG" style="width: 1024px; height: 768px; " /></p>
MNbowfinangler
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I can say with certainty that

I can say with certainty that this is not a bluntnose minnow.

My guess is fathead minnow, but I've never seen a stoneroller in person and can't rule that out. Brassy minnow could be another possibility but that's another species I'm not very familiar with.

andy
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yay its a fathead!
Haha
Carp Chaser
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Thanks guys. Ben I believe yo

Thanks guys. Ben I believe you nailed it! I was reading your response, then googled fathead minnow and was actually looking at that same page you linked to before I clicked on the link. Pretty cool! 

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Carp Chaser
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Some of these are actually of

Some of these are actually of good size, here's a pic of a different one.

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TonyS
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that's what she said?

that's what she said?

TonyS
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In all seriousness the second

In all seriousness the second fish looks more like some sort of chub than a fathead.  The first fish is definatelt crappie bait... err a Fathead.

Outdoors4life
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I agree

I agree with Tony.

 

Gotta post the location though for the ID on that one.

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Carp Chaser
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Guess I should have known tha

Guess I should have known that second one was a different species based on size alone. I'm used to looking for the dark lateral line stripe when it comes to creek chubs. Here's a pic of it without the flash. Sorry, it's kind of blurry.

If anyone wants the location I'd be happy to give it via personal message. It just so happens this spot is right next to a great carp spot so I'd rather not throw it out there. I'm going to be spending some time here because the micros are "piled up"  and that includes species I haven't caught yet.

 

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Went back to the creek this afternoon with my brother. A ton of small bullheads have moved into the area so targeting micros was a bit harder. Phil hooked a micro bass, only a couple inches long and I caught a few small sunfish. We moved to the other side which sometimes is better for micros. Phil was down at a shallow riffle and I fished some slack water. I saw him pull in something and start to get excited. "Dace!" I heard him exclaim. Sure enough he had some type of dace, and what a beautiful, colorful specimen. I have never caught a dace before so I don't know for sure which species of dace it is. 

 

I tried my luck in the same spot and we were able to see groups of 3 to 4 dace move along the bottom in and around the rocks. A while later I had a fish on but when I pulled it up my line got caught in a tree branch and the fish flipped off into the water. I then caught a nice creek chub but still wanted to get a dace. It was dark and time to go when Phil spotted some more dace in the same spot where he caught his. I moved my bait to this spot and had a nice bite. I set the hook and had a nice micro on! Brought it out of the water and again my line got caught. Fortunately it was really deeply hooked and I grabbed a hold of it... it was a nice dace! We headed for safer ground away from the water to take pictures. A very cool deal. I figure it might be a blacknose dace because of the dark mottling. Also a really streamlined head. Phil's lacks the mottling, I wonder if it is a northern redbelly dace. His is in the top pic. 

 

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Dr Flathead
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I would say they are male and

I would say they are male and female blacknose dace.

captain_cyprinid
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they kind of look like the hogsuckers that we have in MT
Carp Chaser
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Doc, you're saying they're re

Doc, you're saying they're regular blacknose dace, not western blacknose dace? I have it listed as western blacknose on my lifelist.  

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Dr Flathead
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If I remember right, there is

If I remember right, there is no Eastern or Western anymore.  There all just considered Blacknose Dace now, no matter what part of the country their caught from.

Corey
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Dace

Doc, I remember hearing something to that effect but I haven't changed the site. Micros are constantly changing;

Carp Chaser
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Thanks for that info. 

Thanks for that info. 

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Carp Chaser
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testing

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Cast_and_Blast
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I think that's a Logperch.  T

I think that's a Logperch.  The mouth is the dead give-away.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Carp Chaser
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yep, you are right Cast and B

yep, you are right Cast and Blast. My browser is becoming obsolete and it's getting tough to post pictures on certain websites. So I was just testing if I could post pics using a different browser. It works. 

Was up at our family cabin this fall- northern MN, and was on a mission to catch as many micros as possible. Had a lot of good spots picked out using google maps and didn't catch a micro at any one of them (though did get some good bites in the shallows of one lake). At least I have some spots for next year, including a spot for lake chubs. Then we were fishing at our normal spot at the lake we are on and I caught that logperch! Very excited to get one cause I needed to upgrade the lifelist pic and we struck out on them earlier. Just where a shallow stream flows into a lake- and there was a nice school of logperch! Love those fish.

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