Help Avoiding Fish Purgatory

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Deftik
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Help Avoiding Fish Purgatory
<p>My friend and I, ever since I caught an eel-type fish many years ago that the mates on the party boat wouldn&#39;t let me photograph entirely because they were afraid of it, invented &quot;Fish purgatory&quot; where all our fish that simply couldn&#39;t be idenitifed went to spend their existance in shame. I really hate when stuff like this happens and thats why I avoid microfishing although I do dabble, as much as possible. Is there any utmost fish biology authority to whom I can send pictures does anyone know of this type of person or place? So far I have 3 fish, one I totally gave up on (eel-type) and these little guys from Florida.</p> <p>This eel of course I have only one photo of.</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx16/deftik/UnknownEelPossibleEelPoutBigMohawkPartyBoat5-19-2009.jpg" /></p> <p>Now what kills me about these Florida fish is I have TONS of pictures, yet it seems nobody knows for sure.</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx16/deftik/IMG_4497.jpg" style="width: 1024px; height: 768px;" /><img alt="" src="http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx16/deftik/IMG_4485.jpg" style="width: 1024px; height: 768px;" /><img alt="" src="http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx16/deftik/IMG_4483.jpg" style="width: 1024px; height: 768px;" /></p> <p>So far for the goby i&#39;ve heard. Goldspot Goby, Notchtongue goby, and Frillfin goby.</p> <p>And on the tilapia, all I&#39;ve heard is that consenous is, its some sort of tilapia. Any ideas?</p> <p><img alt="" src="http://i737.photobucket.com/albums/xx16/deftik/IMG_4034-1.jpg" style="width: 1024px; height: 768px;" /></p>
Jknuth
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Where was the Eel caught? And

Where was the Eel caught? And what time of year. 
That will help a ton.

As far as the tilapia Its a Blue or a Nile.  I am still learning those two and they are frustrating. Where was it caught? you can PM me if you want. that will help a ton.

 

SuperFrog
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that first one looks like a

that first one looks like a jawfish of sorts..

 

 


It doesn't matter what you're fishing for, just as long as you're out there doing it.

Jknuth
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It does!

It does!
Its head tells me right away it isnt a true eel. Its body shape looks very much like a wolf fish species, but its jawline rules most wolf eel species right away. We should be able to get an ID on that guy for sure.

And I am thinking this will be a great spot to petition the beginning of a new forum section on this site.
" Fish Purgatory" A spot for all of our unidentified fish pictures. 

Corey
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Eely thing

The eel-like fish looks like a cusk to me.  Brosme brosme.

 

Deftik
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5-19-2009 belmar, NJ

5-19-2009 belmar, NJ

 

thanks guys I appreciate it!

Jknuth
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Good call Corey!

Good call Corey!
You can see the top of the snout at the top of the head. the way the snout over hangs the lip is key! 
Cusk! 
Giant burbot from hell!
The location and time of year make sense since they come into shallower water in the winter and spring. 

the pyromaniac
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Good on ya Corey! I couldn't
Good on ya Corey! I couldn't remember the name of the species, and it was bugging me! I was reading about them last week...

 

 

 

Let there be fire!

Deftik
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One down! Thanks Corey!

One down! Thanks Corey!

Jknuth
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The Goby looks like a

The Goby looks like a Frillfin goby to me. 
I have caught them in they keys before. Yours is a bit lighter in color, but they very so much. the pattern is almost the same though.

Jknuth
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The Tilapia has me bothered.

The Tilapia has me bothered.
It has no spots on the tail and both Blue and Nile should ahve them. 
Did this fish come from the eastern side of Florida? Near Miami? 
If so there is a possibility it is a youn Banded Tilapia (Tilapia sparrmanii)

Here is a Small Banded



I asked a friend from South Africa and she said right away it was a baby Vlei kurper (Banded Tilapia)

Deftik
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He was caught at myakka river

He was caught at myakka river state park in the main lake I have multiple pictures I can throw up when I get home.

the pyromaniac
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I was just looking at a
I was just looking at a buncha pics of banded tilapia and they all looked the same as this one. I think we have 2 out of 3 difinitively figured out.

 

 

 

Let there be fire!

Jknuth
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Ahhh myakka.. Thats tough as

Ahhh myakka.. Thats tough as far as I know only Nile and Blue are in that area. 
Here is a young Blue tilapia I caught in the Myakka.



The tail is heavily spotted. 

Ill do some looking into it to see if I can find more info on banded. 
Its not impossible its a banded, just not as likely. 

More then likely it is a Blue wihout noticable spots on the tail. 

SK Justin
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" Fish Purgatory" A spot for

" Fish Purgatory" A spot for all of our unidentified fish pictures.

I like this.

SNOOK99
The goby is the Island

The goby is the Island Frillfin Goby (Bathygobius Mystacium)

If you caught it in southwestern Florida, then that's the right range for these goby.  We don't  have them from the east coast.

 

Deftik
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He was caught in islamorada

He was caught in islamorada in the whale harbor channel not sure if it was east or west, right side of the road heading down I presume it must be west?blush

 

Deftik
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Found this

Found this

http://fishbase.org.cn/summary/Bathygobius-mystacium.html

Deftik
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Snook I think you may be

Snook I think you may be right, shame they have zero photos of it online practically.

 

Here is every single decent photo of that tilapia, below is the fish above and a totally different one, maybe it'll have something the original did not?