Climate Change and Sportfishing

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J Dunfee
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Climate Change and Sportfishing
<p>Anyone have thoughts on if and how climate change is affecting, and will affect angling in the near, middle, and far-off future? I don&#39;t have all that much to say about it at the moment, other than these past few years have obviously been pretty screwey as far as predicting and patterning go... but this is a subject I&#39;m very interested in, and would like to study more and think more about. I would just like to hear your guys&#39; opinions(if there are any) on it..</p>
Outdoors4life's picture
Climate change?

Climate has been changing since the start of this big ole ball. Human's increasing the speed of the change? Probably. All the burning and building sure helps warm things up. Summertime we run A/C and that heats up the exterior unit.

I think what is hurting the fishing is the runoff into the lakes and streams. The fertilizer for the perfect lawns. The warming of the water running off our impervious surfaces. Construction, ever going.  All of those will affect our fishing more quickly than the inevitable climate change.

It is all perspective!

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Moose439's picture
It's definitely fucking up my

It's definitely fucking up my ice season I'll tell you that. Never thought I'd be wanting it to be colder....

Goldenfishberg's picture
Same here Moose

This warm weather has really been a bummer. Never expected I would have to pull off my permanent shanty from the lake at the end of Janaury which is generally our coldest time of year. Might have to install pontoons on the old girl if this warming trend continues for the future. 

Ya just Can't catch um from the couch.

angry mongrel
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Ahh there's plenty of ice out
Ahh there's plenty of ice out there and she'll cool down again! Be perfect in the 20's. Just keep driving the 1ton around making sure it's good ice even dragging other peoples shacks out still got 14 or so under mine. Need some cool though!

"It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees" -Emiliano Zapata

IvanTortuga's picture
Invasives and Global Climate Change

One of the biggest issues with areas not getting as cold in the winters as they used to is the ability of invasive species to presist through mild winters. Back in the day if certain species were accidentally introduced into the watershed DNR (or similar) would say no worries the winter cold will kill them off. But now we are seeing this to be untrue as the species becomes hardier and the winters become more mild the mix allows for breeding to occur and as this happens the invasive species are able to out breed (at least in many instances) the native and carefully monitored game species. This has been particularly true in Arizona as native species are already faced with competition from game species that people introduce outside of what game and fish deem safe. Great for species fishing...unless you want species actually native to your region sad

SomewhereDownstream's picture
I am somewhat concerned about

I am somewhat concerned about climate change because they're saying that nearly every American wild trout east of the big muddy will float within a hundred years if it continues on its current path. Climate change may also affect the shiner family, some of the northern suckers, Martin's (that was autocorrect, it was supposed to be m-a-d-t-o-m-s), and maybe even some of the sunfish. 


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I'd agree with OD4Life

Not a climate expert, but I do know the earth has been warming up since the last ice age, if not we'd still be under a glacier here in God's country.  Britain has a similar climate (not exactly the same but similar) to our area and scientists have found evidence of fruit trees growing there back in the Roman empire days.  Obviously there were no factories, cars, etc. back then but it would stand to reason that the climate was warmer then than it actually is now, unless you can get orange trees to grow in the midwest, I'm not to concerned about climate change.  We've also been breaking records in recent years for lowest actual temps and most time spent below zero, again though the data is flawed as I believe temps have only really been tracked for about the last 100 years not thousands of years.  On the other hand I firmly believe we are screwing up our planet like OD said, with chemicals, garbage, fertilizers, etc.  I've been in the water treatment business for over 20 years and the amount of chemicals showing up in our drinking water and water sheds from then until now is astounding, not good news for anyone man or beast.  Research the island of garbage the size of Texas floating around the Pacific from all the dumping of crap into the oceans, that will make your stomach turn, sadly nobody seems to care, out of sight out of mind.

My final thoughts on climate change though are, yes we can destroy the environment (for ourselves and current life here) probably to the point where everything we know goes bye bye including our species, but we can't destroy this planet, that's just man's ego thinking we are more important here then what we actually are.  If you consider the actual history of this ball of rock, certain dinosaur species were here for millions of years, we've been here for maybe a hundred thousand.  The earth has had I believe 5 major extinction events, some wiping out over 85% of life on earth.  So no matter what we do as a species our time here is limited whether we like it or not.  Yes I still recycle pop cans, don't throw crap out of my car on the road, and try and leave every fishing spot I visit cleaner then it was when I found it, that's because I would like my children and grandchildren to get to enjoy the same things we do now, not really that I'm worried that the planet is going to heat up and be catastrophic because of it.  Hell we could get hit by an asteroid tomorrow and not have to worry about any of it lmao!  I guess my motto still is do what you can to help but don't sweat the stuff out of your control, because worrying about stuff like that will only make ya die younger.  Crack a beer, wet a line, and enjoy what you have.  Fish on fellas!

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A good-sized problem.

It's certainly true that humans won't be here forever and like FP4LifesDad said, the climate has been naturally changing for all of earth's history. However, none of that means that human-caused climate change won't have profound impacts in the very near future. It's easy to see litter and other types of pollution that do immediate damage to habitats, but I'd argue that climate change is a cause for much greater concern. Sea level rise, flooding, desertification are all processes that can destroy/alter habitats much more rapidly than most kinds of localized pollution. And while these processes can and do occur naturally, it's really all about the rate at which it happens. Human-influenced climate change is already beginning to cause these changes faster than organisms can adapt to them. There's a lot of complicated chemical and climatological evidence, but generally I think people are on board with the fact that fluctuations in CO2 (and other greenhouse gases) are major natural drivers of long term weather/climate patterns. Now it doesn't take a rocket scientist to compare atmspheric CO2 levels from before and after the industrial revolution to see that we have dumped a pretty obscene amount of the stuff into the air and in a very short period of time. 

Sure, one could sit back and watch this science experiment unfold, but I for one would argue that there's too much at stake not to take action. If we keep our current trajectory, it will be our children and grandchildren that take the brunt of this. 

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Climate Change Pictorial

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Global Surface Temperature

The surface of the Earth  was quite warm in 2016 compared to the average surface temperature between 1951 and 1980.


Global surface temperature departures from average for 2016.


No matter which side of the fence folks may be on about this issue - whether current climate changes are natural, human caused or a combo of both, the data shows the same results: the climate changes. I believe the heart of the solution is how will humans adapt, but the heart of the problem is plain ol politics. We have the brains, technology and opposable thumbs to effectively adjust how & where we farm which crops & livestock worldwide to keep pretty much most folks fed, housed and healthy, and help manage the rest of Earth's critters in the process; but realistically, I sadly doubt this will happen 'cause more often than not, the humans in the best position to solve the problem - corporate fat cats and politicians (who like to keep every-critter/everyone else under their pudgy opposable thumbs), are just too self absorbed and greedy for money to bother. So does the one species on Earth that has the brains, tech and ability to adapt, also have the political heart and will? I dunno...