Best Knot for heavy mono?

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Moose439
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Best Knot for heavy mono?

Hey there RF hive mind! Wondering if I can get your input on the best knots to use with heavy mono (40#+). I've had some trouble with knots wanting to slip as well as problems with linking the line when I'm trying to set the knot.  Any input would be appreciated.

Outdoors4life
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Moose when I tie the 80 pound flouro I use a uni knot for the swivel and a snell knot on my hook. 
I use pliers and a secured eye hook to pull on it. Either use a ligher to make a ball at the tag end or use a superglue on the knot. I have not had a problem with the 80 pound slipping with this tactic. Before I used glue or lighter I did not have a problem with slipping then either.

 

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NickP27
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Palomar Knot

I usually use a uni or grinner knot and also have a hard time setting them when using heavier lines.  I have reverted to palomar knots on the occasions I need to use heavier line.  The palomar sets easier due to having line surface area rubbing ... not sure about the slipping issue though ... will have to catch something bigger before I let you know.

uconn fishhead
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Call Me Old Fashioned

I have caught over 50 stripers between 20 and 44 pounds on three-way eel rigs using 60# mono leaders tied only with improved clinch knots to both the hook and the swivel.  I don't remember ever having a leader let go except when a bluefish bit me off.  With 60# mono you only need 5-6 twists in the knot.

I only consider a different knot using any test mono if I want the tie-off point to swing freely.

I've heard so many people recommend so many different knots, but why change if something works for you?  But then I am always a minimalist when it come to tackle.

All that said, the heavy hitters who go after tuna with 80+# mono usually use Palomar knots or crimps.

TonyS
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san diego jam knot - that's

san diego jam knot - that's my new go to for heavy mono or heavy fluoro.   Or a snell if going to a bent eye hook.   Uni was my previous go to and works decent for me as well.   

Perc30
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I’ll second the use of the

I’ll second the use of the San Diego Jam knot...it has yet to fail me

Susquehannock
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Minimalism

I always try to keep the number of knots in any rig as low as possible. The less knots, the stronger the rig will be.

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philaroman
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 super-small / super-strong!

it's slowly converting the SD-jammers (albeit, an excellent knot)

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Divemaster
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When I’m tying knots with 40

When I’m tying knots with 40-50# fluoro for trolling, I usually go with a plain old clinch knot (3 or 4 wraps). Mono or fluoro over 15-20# is a major PITA to tie palomar knots with in my experience.

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Moose439
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Thanks for the input guys. I

Thanks for the input guys. I usually use a snell for my hook knot and use a double uni to attach my leader. My real problem is if I have to use a swivel. Tying a polymer with 50# mono withrout kinking my leader has been a struggle for me. Hopefully one of your suggestions works out for me. Od4l I like the glue idea as well, what brand do you use?

philaroman
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consider the UV-cure stuff

consider the UV-cure stuff (Loon Outdoors Co.???)

takes a couple min. to set & "dry" from direct sunlight or UV-lamp, otherwise stays liquid

the whole bottle doesn't turn into a freakin' rock after first couple uses

like the acetone/ketone based superglues

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blackbullhead
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When tying my 50# leader to

When tying my 50# leader to the swivel on my main line, I always use a trilene knot. I limit kinkage by tightening (dressing) the knot by tugging on the tag end instead of the hook end. It helps to tie with a longer tag than normal and to lubricate the whole thing with a generous dose of saliva. It's more graceful than it sounds, I promise.