Add the word carp and they will read...

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AvidFly
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Add the word carp and they will read...

 

I think it must be taught in today's media classes that If it has the remote possibility of being "bad", or you simply don't want it in your lake (be it right or wrong...), just attach the word carp to it.  That or they think more people will read it if they see "carp".  Am I missing something here?  How did carp get attached to snakehead???

 
 

Invasive species war spills into court

... And consider the snakehead carp, found in some lakes and rivers in the East -- a voracious carnivore that can live out of water for three days and ...  

 

 

Jason E.
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Maybe it's similar to calling

Maybe it's similar to calling walleye "pike" or calling bullheads a "bullhead catfish."?  I don't know.  I'd guess it's a typo too.

 

MJohnson
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The fact is

We do not live society that makes decisions based on facts.  Things get done based on popular (or the loudest) opinion.  I don't think that most people can make a decision based on facts because they don't know what facts are or how to find them.   That article has a definite slant to it to generate buzz..  It seems to me she is trying to get people up in arms about how the government is interfering with certain peoples lakes.  Also, it seems she is trying to make the DNR seem like they don't know what they are doing.  I'm not claiming the DNR does know what it's doing.  I just wouldn't call anything in that article a typo.    

Dr Flathead
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Snakehead Carp eh?  Now that

Snakehead Carp eh?  Now that just plain stupid.  Leave it up to the media to say the dumbest things.  I hope we get snakeheads up here someday.  People will freak out, and I'll be laughing at them, and fishing for snakeheads every day...

Heidi
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Definitely no typo...and this is definitely a nerdy post...sorry

I read it, too, and I agree with MJohnson, that's definitely no typo! I teach academic essay/research/thesis writing, and she is following all of the correct rules for basic academic research writing - she cites sources (quoted and cited) for most of her reported "facts," but that particular line is not referenced in any way - therefore it is exclusively HER interpretation (summary) of information she has probably read or heard, and misinterpreted, elsewhere and unidentified. I also noticed the time the article was submitted? 2:33 AM - I bet this article was not proofread/edited very carefully before print or upload/update. 

 

All Strib writers' contact info is included with printed articles - if you feel strongly concerned about this kind of printed misinformation, maybe click on her email addy or give her a call to politely educate her. I clicked on her name, and her bio says she has been writing for the Strib since 1979, so she should definitely know better than to make a mistake like that! However, as I included below, her focus/area of experience is healthcare, not ecology. She is obviously erroneous in her "carp" taxonomy, eh! ;) 

 

 

Josephine Marcotty

Investigative reporter | Health
Phone: 612-673-7394

Josephine Marcotty is a medical writer and investigative reporter based on the Star Tribune’s health team. She specializes in coverage of reproductive health, transplant medicine and infectious diseases.

 

"Can you pull the leviathan in with a fishook?" Job 41: 1

 

MJohnson
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Thanks for posting her info.

Thanks for posting her info. I really enjoyed my roasted chicken carp and steamed green carp beans at dinner tonight.

Maashkinoozhe
Yeah, not a typo, but....

If you google "snakehead carp" (with the quotes) you will get a number of hits. She didn't create the term, but she is perpetuating the misnomer, which is pretty annoying to those of us who'd like to see a better-informed public in regards to fish.

Now when will we re-name the largemouth and smallmouth bass and what should we re-name them to? ;-)

 

Dave

Muskymags
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The article is funny

Ya know......It was probably a typo as I'm sure she is unfamiliar with the terms carp or snakehead.  She probably referenced them subliminally from tid-bits of bad press in the past.  I bet she couldn't tell the difference from a northern pike and a walleye, but the article is disturbing.  Seriously though, the states ecosystems are all evolving and we're fighting it.  I say let it evolve!  No matter what they do they're not going to stop the spread of Invasives, but just slow it down.  Its inevitable that 50-100 years from now these species will be settled in and other new ones would be coming and going.  Spotted salamanders have been recently being discovered in MN, turkeys are everywhere, and their even proposing wolf hunting seasons.  So all around us the ecosystems are changing, and we need to stop wasting our money trying to stop it and instead, embrace change and go with it.  I'd love to catch a snakehead carp in MN!  hehe

TheHugbot
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Luckily the climate here is

Luckily the climate here is too cold for snakeheads, we do however have a few invasives includion the topmouth gudgeon and the sunbleak. the topmouth eats fish eggs and fry, a 17 lake complex was shut down only a few days ago because they where discovered there.

As for the 'snakehead carp', I have no idea where the press may have got that information from, so they must just be making stuff up... typical.

Hengelaar
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snakehead carp!!

If only Josh wasn't chasing whoknowswhat in Florida, he'd give us a quick and masterful rendering of what a snakehead carp would look like! Betcha it'd be awesome...

Fishn sure is neat

Gunnar
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Damn Dutch

So a few hundred years ago I was going to take some islands in what's now Indonesia as my colony. Then the Dutch stole my idea.

Then I was screwing around in Photoshop with some old fish pics to make a snakehead carp. And the Dutch stole my idea.

What's the deal, people of Holland?

They may have stolen my idea, but apparently Vermeer, Rembrandt and Knoeth are busy today and I got here first!

Northern snakehead carp

Click it for a bigger version.

None of the fish parts involved were from carp or snakeheads.

 

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Heidi
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Quite believable-looking creation there...

If widely disseminated, you might get some great 4/1 (poisson d'Avril) mileage out of that illustration! ;) 

"Can you pull the leviathan in with a fishook?" Job 41: 1

 

TonyS
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Now when will we re-name the

Now when will we re-name the largemouth and smallmouth bass and what should we re-name them to? ;-)

Already done.  SM Bass have been Brown Carp, Quetico Carp, Smallmouth Bronze Carp, etc in Minnesota's Arrowhead (anything past the St Louis River anyway) or quite some time.  And they regarded about as highly as silver carp...

 

Gunner - that is awesome, I had an idea to do something like that too but you and the dang Dutch be me to it.

Gunnar
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The Dutch!

The Dutch!

Thanks.

I've had all these old illustrations for a while and been meaning to do a massive Frankenstein's Fish project with them. I keep not having time, though.

(OK, I can stop pretending to rip on the fine people of the Netherlands now. After all, I thoroughly enjoyed the place for the few days I was there 15+ years ago, and the very short time I fished with our esteemed colleague Hengelaar, I found no reason to dislike him or his people. I'll stop now.)

 

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MJohnson
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Prehensile Barbels

are cool and one of the identifying features of the snakehead carp.

Gunnar
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The barbels

Snakehead carp barbels are not just prehensile, they have suckers like octopus tentacles. Can't really see it in this low-res image, but they're there.

 

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Maashkinoozhe
Snakehead carp and SM and LM Bass

Tony  -

 

Just a silly thought on my part since those "bass" technically are mis-named, too. The only "real" bass in Minnesota are the white and yellow bass.

The Leopard and Tiger Sunfish, maybe? (They're Centrarchidae, after all)

Actually, I don't mind their current names (the LM and SM bass), but  I DID mind the "snakehead carp" reference, though, and I did send off an email politely asking her (despite my inner urges to resort to ridicule) not to call them that again.

 

Awesome pic, Gunnar!!

 

Dave

 

 

 

dj330
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found another one...
TheHugbot
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They have obviously never

They have obviously never seen a carp before, how could anyone possibly think that snakehead and carp are in the same family?